January 3, 2017
I can’t remember if I saw Jean Jezebel on Twitter at @JeanJezzy first or broadcasting live in a webcam show on chaturbate.com/jeanjezebel. At this point it doesn’t really matter. I got the interview I wanted and I hope you’ll enjoy reading it as much as I enjoyed my discussion with Jean.
Caramel: Thanks for agreeing to do this interview with me, Jean. The first question for you on curiouscat.me/JeanJezzy is, “What drew you to the adult entertainment?” You replied, “Sex. Exhibition. Attention.” After having seen some of your live performances on chaturbate.com/jeanjezebel, I can’t see any reason for you not to easily manage to get all of the wonderful things in you’re life. What inspired you to become a webcam broadcaster as opposed to studio modeling?
Jean: I guess it came from a lack of self-confidence. I’ve always wanted to do studio modeling, but didn’t really feel like I’d ever be the right “fit.” I figured performing on webcam would at least give me some fulfillment. I didn’t realize it would give me a huge confidence boost – that was a welcome surprise.
Caramel: Was there a big learning curve on doing webcam shows? Did you have anyone to guide you who had experience with camming?
Jean: It took me probably three months to finally get on to do my first cam show. I had a friend who was familiar with a lot of aspects of the porn world, who basically told me to just do it. It was the equivalent of pushing me into a pool to teach me to swim, I think. It worked. By the end of my first show, I was already getting into it. Startup is definitely different than the extended aspect of camming though. You really have to figure out what kind of viewers you want, what your viewers like, ways to break up monotony, balancing presence on social media, trying to bring in traffic…. and it’s totally different for everyone. There’s really no formula, from what I can tell. I think success is really based on what you realistically want to accomplish and can achieve.
Caramel: Your descriptive answers might help some aspiring cam broadcasters. Do you have moderators when you cam? If so, who are they and what do they do to help aside from quieting trolls?
Jean: I do have a few people that moderate for me when they’re around. I don’t think my cam ever gets crazy enough to really need more than a moderator or two, but it’s nice when they’re around so I don’t have to pause from the show to swing the banhammer. I like to moderate for other performers I’ve gotten close with as well. I think, besides the troll banning, the best mods are those that can hype up a room, inspire interaction from viewers, chat with the performer during lulls (because it can get pretty eerily quiet), but also take a step back when there’s action, to put the focus on the performer and the tippers. They’re paying, they should be in the spotlight, after all.
Caramel: Yes, they deserve that. Another Curious Cat question for you is, “Would you rather never orgasm again or never make someone else orgasm?” You replied, “I’d rather never orgasm again. In fact, I could probably go without having another orgasm again from now on. I derive so much internal pleasure from getting someone else off, that it’s a suitable replacement.” I try not to make snap judgments about people from a few statements, but considering this reply, I might assume that you’re 100% submissive with your partner(s). On a Dominant/submissive scale from 1 to 10, what number do you identify with?
Jean: Hmm, well, I tend to separate Dominance/submission from Topping/bottoming, which gets really confusing with “topping from the bottom,” but I go with it. I’ve always naturally been pretty subbie, but I’ve found a Switch/Domme streak that pops up every so often or with the right people. I think it’s the same for topping versus bottoming. I’m very much a bottom, and I can only really imagine some few situations (again, with the right partners) in which I’d find myself even able to top. From a purist perspective, though, yeah… getting my partner off is a huge fetish, and often the end all be all of a pleasurable session for me. I’ll claim submissive in that context. 😉
Caramel: What is it you like most about having a dominant partner in those situations?
Jean: Honestly, I love not having to make decisions. Hahaha. Which makes it even more awkward when I’m being forced to make a decision by the same partner. I guess I’ve spent a good deal of my life taking care of other people, it feels right having someone take care of me for a change.
Caramel: Have you ever topped from the bottom? Do you feel that if a dominant allows a sub to turn the tables that they’re not fulfilling their role correctly?
Jean: Oooo, this is fun! Yes, I have topped from the bottom, and I think it’s a fascinating and fantastic aspect of a BDSM relationship. I don’t think it betrays a sub’s submission or challenges a Dom/me’s dominance. I think allowing these boundary crossings and power struggles create an even deeper bond…in a way, reading each other. But I’m sort of a sentimental sap when it comes to kink relationships. There’s no real right or wrong correct role. I’ve seen a perfectly obedient slave on display by some pretty brutal Mistresses, while also seeing a bratty little subby teasing her Daddy while he canes her. Assuming consent, none of those are wrong. I think it’s kind of beautiful.
Caramel: When were you first exposed to roleplay and BDSM? Were you introduced to both practices and lifestyles at the same time?
Jean: Yeah, I suppose, though not in the same context. Heh. I used to tabletop roleplay, which led into LARPing (Live-Action Role-Playing). The kink originated at about the same time, but with girlfriends and an entirely different crowd of people. I never thought of combining the two until I played in a Vampire the Masquerade LARP…in which people often felt comfortable enough to fully enact character relationships. That….was pretty magically eye opening.
Caramel: Are you into Shibari (an ancient Japanese artistic form of rope bondage)? Do you like being bound and if so, how?
Jean: I’m into Shibari as much as it looks pretty. I haven’t the faintest idea of how to do it nor have I experienced it myself. I do love to be bound though…. and I would absolutely not turn down the opportunity. Mostly I’ve just experienced scarves and belts and such. I think I’m ready for an upgrade.
Caramel: Girl, with the right partner who knows what they’re doing, you’re gonna love it! Are you into pet play?
Jean: Um……yes. Yes, I am. A lot. In fact, whenever I imagine a BDSM relationship, this is the scenario my brain immediately goes to. I fancy the idea of being groomed and cared for and trained to be shown off by my Mistress in something comparable to a dog show. <3
Caramel: Awesome. Do you currently have a Mistress or a Master?
Jean: Ooooo, tricky question! There are a few out there who have found ways to make my knees jelly, and happily submit. But no one’s officially put a collar on me. I also probably wouldn’t say no if any of them did; there’s at least one I wouldn’t hesitate to. :3
Caramel: We’ve both fantasized about Rubber Dollification and unless something has changed recently, neither of us have lived it out yet. What turns you on about it?
Jean: Oh! So, I like the concept of rubber suits with inserts and implants and such to transform the body shape. But the concept I get weirdly drawn to is hard to explain. Take an old stereotypical rubber sex doll. Then dress me up to look just like that; JUST like it. If I lay down, I’m gonna look like an inanimate object, with holes. And that right there is kind of the point. I think it’s this fanciful thinking of bringing an object to life – that sort of youthful imagination. What if the doll that you’re fucking….is real and alive?
Caramel: I think you’ve described your perspective perfectly and erotically. I suppose that Dollification would fit into the fetish category, but that may be subjective. Do you have any particular fetishes?
Jean: I have a few…. No I have a lot. But I’ll name a few. Odors/aromas are pretty powerful to me, and not just perfumes or body sprays or whatever. I love some of the stankystanks too. As long as it isn’t hyperpowerful, eyewatering up my nostril brainmelting strong, then just about every stench can give me some bit of stimulation. Without going into extreme detail, examples include everything from vanilla lotion to underarm BO, to sour ball sweat. Oh yeah, other fetishes: cumswapping, threesome/moresome/gangbangs, cock worship, tattoos/piercings, exhibition and submission. Dogging is something I rather fancy as an idea too….dunno if I’d be down for all that risky dick though.
Caramel: I think dogging is a blast if you can find places where there are no kids around. I’m hoping I haven’t traumatized anyone in the past. Have you ever cum from the act of penetration with no other genital stimulation?
Jean: I have not, no. Still waiting for that to happen. The best advice I’ve gotten on that front is “just let it happen.” So…whenever that is.
Caramel: That’s quite a challenge, but a fun goal to try to reach. What’s at the top of your list of sexual fantasies at the moment?
Jean: Oh, it changes near weekly. But a Public Disgrace style of scene sounds heavenly. Not even necessarily as a shoot. Just being the center of lusty attention…yes plz.
Caramel: That’s the ultimate height of dogging to me. Moving in a different direction, I understand that you don’t eat out much. Do you like cooking?
Jean: I do like cooking. I used to do it as a profession, which meant I rarely ever cooked at home. Now that I don’t get paid to cook, I enjoy it again. Especially if I’m cooking for other people; I get a little lazy cooking just for myself.
Caramel: All that sexiness and you can burn up a kitchen too. Nice. You’re fond of the actress Krysten Ritter, best known recently for her roles as Jane Margolis on the AMC drama series Breaking Bad, Chloe in the ABC comedy series Don’t Trust the B—- in Apartment 23, and Jessica Jones in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. What turns you on about her?
Jean: Heh, more than a little fond, yeah. There are a wide range of features that I find attractive on people, but what stands out with Krysten is her dark hair, pale skin, full lips and bitchy sarcasm. I’ve also had crushes on Audrey Hepburn, Christina Ricci, Fairuza Balk, and Rose McGowan….I suppose I have a type. >.>
Caramel: What turns you on about the Tyrion Lannister character on Game of Thrones portrayed by Peter Dinklage? What turns you on about Peter Dinklage?
Jean: I think this was from a marry/fuck/kill question, but it does bring up an interesting point. I’m very attracted to intelligence and wit, and Tyrion had both in spades. I suppose that a lot of that comes naturally from Peter Dinklage, himself.
Caramel: Peter’s GQ Magazine Men of the Year 2011 spread was very sexy. Strangely, everyone I’ve met from Morristown, New Jersey is pretty sexy. If you could meet four other celebrities and spend an evening with them, who would they be and why?
Jean: Krysten Ritter – because fangirling.
David Tennant – because he’s cute, funny, a gentleman, and there’s a rumor that he’s…well endowed.
Patton Oswalt – I don’t think the conversation would ever get boring, and I might die happily of pure laughter.
Neil Gaiman – because I have so much to discuss with him about his stories and ideas.
Caramel: When you were very young and began to develop attractions to others, were they both boys and girls? If so, were you confused about why you liked both?
Jean: I was attracted to both boys and girls. I don’t think I was necessarily confused about why I liked both, per se. I think I was more confused about why I was attracted to boys, but couldn’t fathom the idea of being with them. It wasn’t until later that I realized it was because, as a cis-male, it didn’t feel right to me – the identity was all wrong. It all makes a lot of sense now.
Caramel: Same here and I mean exactly the same. Funny. We both identify as pansexual and not everyone knows exactly what that means. What does it mean to you?
Jean: Pansexuality really just means that you’re attracted to whoever you’re attracted to. I think there’s a general misconception by people that don’t understand it that we’ll basically fuck anyone, but attraction is still key. For me, if I’m attracted to someone, it doesn’t matter who they are or what gender they identify as – if we’re going to become physical, we’ll figure out how to please each other, regardless of the plumbing.
Caramel: What’s the last thing someone’s done to you that turned you on incredibly?
Jean: Someone recently described how they would collar me and lead me by a leash on all fours for that Public Disgrace style scenario I mentioned earlier. The detail with which they painted that picture was just….ungh. It’s arousing just thinking about it now. Public/exhibition submission…it’s a hell of a drug.
Caramel: What’s the last standout thing you’ve done to someone else that drove them half out of their mind sexually?
Jean: Well, I don’t know if it drove them half out of their mind, necessarily, but I started sending progressive lewd snaps to a cam performer, while she was performing. I may or may not have been distracting her from her show, but it was fun to watch her reaction in real time, basically getting off for other people, to me getting off for her.
Caramel: Does breast size matter to you? Does cock size matter to you?
Jean: No to both. All tits are beautiful…well, almost all. I find some of the older, larger, saggier boobies to be beautiful, but not so much a turn on for me. As for cocks, middle of the road is just right. Big cocks make my mouth water, but idk how much they might break me. Won’t stop me from trying though. I don’t have a problem with little cocks, but I couldn’t really do a lot of what I want to do with them.
Caramel: When did you begin to realize that you might be trans? Did you always just know?
Jean: I think I may have always known. But I knew for sure at 12. At that time, the idea of being trans wasn’t really ubiquitous yet, even living in the Bay Area, and I never really thought there’d be anything I could ever do about it.
Caramel: Did you have anyone to confide in about what you were feeling?
Jean: I brought it up to my mother a few times. I remember discussing how I wished that I could be a woman, but I hated the fact that I would never actually be a woman, because my chromosomes would all still be XY. We were always pretty scientific in our thoughts. I toyed with and hinted the idea at friends, but I never really was close enough to anyone to really have a serious discussion about it. I felt I just had to hide it, because what would be the point.
Caramel: Who did you first tell when the time finally came to transition and what was the reaction?
Jean: When I finally found the opportunity in life to sit down and really focus on me and what these feelings were all about, especially with the realization that it was possible to do something about it, I came out to my best friend. She’s been the most supportive person in my life. Her oldest is also trans, so we’ve been sharing and supporting each other a lot.
Caramel: Having a support system makes a huge difference. Did you lose any friends or family relationships when you embarked on your transition?
Jean: It took me about two months to go through the list of people I felt it necessary to come out to before coming out publicly, most of them friends and family members. Somewhat to my surprise, every single one of those people has been incredibly supportive. I count myself insanely lucky. This might be the reason I feel so willing to be part of a supportive network for other transitioning people, because I know a lot of us don’t have the support that I did. I also do what I can to shift views of people who are naïve to what transitioning actually is. I’m the person that rarely gets offended or upset when people ask the inappropriate and sensitive questions. I totally understand why other people (rightly) get offended and tell them to fuck off. For my own sake, I like to engage with them and educate them. I’d rather help them realize that we’re people, just like everyone else, and just because we don’t fit their understanding of the binary gender “norms” does not make us unique or peculiar. I’d rather create another ally.
Caramel: Is everyone you know aware of your adult industry career and future aspirations?
Jean: No, definitely not everyone I know. I keep a separation between my life and my sex work. Again, I’ve come out to the few people I really care about their feelings and reactions. My mother is uncomfortable, but understanding. My father and my stepmother are…well…eerily supportive, but it’s really wonderful. I’m not terribly worried if the sex work creeps into, and even overtakes, my “muggle” life – I’ve even thought about outing myself anyway. People know I’m extremely sex-positive and I’ve talked about the idea seriously enough since I was in high school. I don’t think it would be much of a surprise to a lot of people.
Caramel: Are there any major studios you’d like to work with? Do you have any producers or porn actors in mind you’d like to work with someday?
Jean: There are a number of major studios and so many performers I’d love to work with, it’d be hard to narrow that list down. For sure I’d be happy to do work for any of the Grooby sites, and TwoTGirls.com looks amazing. I still fancy the idea of working for Kink.com and CrashPad Series, too. I’ve always loved their work. There are some other more amateur focused studios/projects that I’d like to work with as well, like GalPalFilms.com and Cuddle Pile. I like Brittany Jane’s enthusiasm and ideas, I think she’d be a lot of fun to work with. Ashlee Nova and I have already come up with some fun, sometimes off-the-wall ideas that need to be made. There are so many other cuties I’d love to work with and get to know, but I sometimes doubt I’ll ever actually be on that level.
Caramel: I have no doubt at all. Don’t forget that I requested this interview confident that you can do anything you set your mind to. What other things have you done professionally to support yourself outside of the adult industry?
Jean: Ugh, mostly service industry. I used to do table service for fine dining, then worked as a wedding banquet chef and sautée cook in a high-volume exhibition kitchen. It was a lot of fun, but the hours were horrible and the pay was absolute shit. I work as a biologist….sort of…currently. But it’s less of a job and more of a fun monotonous social club where we have the potential to make money.
Caramel: I don’t see you having any need to do anything aside for what you’re already doing to make a living. But are there any other fields of work you’d like to explore?
Jean: Honestly, no. The adult industry has been the one area of work I’ve wanted to explore since I even knew of its existence, but never really felt I had a place in it until recently. The other major field I’d always been interested in was Biology – and I’ve explored it already. 😀
Caramel: That was one of my best subjects. Okay, new direction again – Android or iPhone?
Jean: I used to be an iPhone girl, from the 3GS through the 6. I finally decided to check out an Android with my Galaxy S6, and I wrote a public breakup letter on FB to iPhone. I was pretty happy to make the change.
Caramel: Are you big on gaming? If so, what are your favorites?
Jean: I love gaming, I just wish I had more time for it. I recently acquired Overwatch, so I’ve been playing that quite a bit, but before that was GTA5. I’m a bit of a trophy whore, so I push for completion-ism, whenever possible. My favorites are usually open world/sandbox games like the Fallout series <3. I’ve also always been a big fan of RPGs and horror-genre games. I wish there would be a resurgence of games like Myst and Zork Nemesis…puzzle games are totally my jam.
Caramel: What type of music do you love listening to mostly?
Jean: I have pretty eclectic tastes in music, so it really depends on my mood. But my major influences came from Darkwave, Metal, and Industrial roots. I even recall my first experience that made that musical snap in my brain. My uncle had sent me a recording of a Stone Roses album, I think with the intention of making a fan out of me. It was eh. But I let the tape flip over at one point, and the Sisters of Mercy album Floodlands was on the B-Side. I was hooked.
Caramel: I used to play “Fool’s Gold” by Stone Roses over and over again. It was so cool and funky it and guided me to Alternative. Do you have any favorite books or movies?
Jean: I’m a Neil Gaiman fan. Humorous satire sticks in my brain, so Douglas Adam’s Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy and Neil Gaiman/Terry Pratchett’s Good Omens are amazing for me. I also like horror/creep genre, specifically Poe and Lovecraft, along with the plethora of mythos and lore of supernatural creepies. his bleeds into my movies as well. Like music, my favorite movies tend to depend on my mood. I’m a fan of basically everything that the MCU has put out so far. But when it comes to movies I could watch over and over again: Dark City, Se7en, Donnie Darko, The Dark Crystal, Labyrinth, The Princess Bride, and UHF, to name a few.
Caramel: Someone on Curious Cat asked you the following: “I am attracted to trans woman and willing to try bottom. Am I gay? You replied, “Absolutely not. Trans women are women. If you’re male and you’re into a chick, regardless of what kind of anatomy she has, you’re not gay…you’re totally normal. Let me ask you back another way. If a dude wants to get pegged by a cis-chick, does that make him gay? In the end, I don’t think labels matter. People are sexual, each in their own way. Just accept what you like. I don’t have a question about this for you, Jean. I just really like your answer and wanted to get it into our interview. In fact, I have no more questions. Please describe yourself in five words.
Jean: Nerdy, experimental, sarcastic, caring, slut. Muah! xoxoxo
Caramel: Right back at you! xoxo
For more information about Jean, follow her on Twitter: @JeanJezzy on curiouscat.me/JeanJezzy and on chaturbate.com/jeanjezebel literally to catch her incredible live performances. Please tip cam performers generously. It’s fun for everyone, but it’s also hard work. You can find me on Twitter at @tscaramel.